I know I'm doing something stupid...

[ntoulme]

I just tried my first real multi-disc archive, 60 gigs of images, to DVD on my Sony DRU500ULX, WinXP Pro. I can't get AC to do anything other than write the index only. What am I doing wrong? The write index only box is unchecked, I tried checking/unchecking it again, I tried toggling the file filter on an off, I'm stumped.

Nill

[MichaelT]

Why not send a screen shot of the main Setup screen so I can see how you have things set. I may be able to quickly spot the problem.

Support@pictureflow.com

[ntoulme]

That suggestion made me look at it again and I may have found it... should my Target Media be DVD, rather than HTML Index DVD?

Nill

[ntoulme]

Yep, that did it. Estimated size is now 21 discs instead of 1. Told you I as doing something stupid. ;-)

Nill

[ntoulme]

But now it's goofing along at "282 of 37840 files processed." Looks like it might be done by Wednesday. Did it not save all that the first time it went through?

Guess I better go back and read the docs. I hate reading docs.

Nill

[MichaelT]

It will save the thumbs and viewing images between sessions so if you make no changes it will not have to bebuild the image files.

But also...

That's a lot of discs to burn in 1 Archive set. No technical reason not to do it, but you may want to divide the set into smaller archives frm a logistics viewpoint.

But if you decide to procveed with the entire archive set, be aware that you can burn these over several days. Each time you re-enter AC, just to directly to the burn screen and check the DVDs that are next to burn and continue. There is no need to keep AC open until all the DVDs are burned. It can be done over time.

But if you are archiving 35,000 files, you are really burning over 100,000 files (thumbnail file, viewing image file, source file, HTML page file), and that makes the index quite a lot of files.

Your choice, but I would suggest a smaller breakdown by subject or year or whatever fits your workflow style...

[ntoulme]

Thanks Michael, I will try a smaller set. What do you recommend as a maximum archive set size?

Maybe this related, and maybe not... now I'm getting write errors:;

Device Error 1053: A seek command was interrupted by another command
Error occurred writing data to disc.
Error Sense Data: SENSE KEY: 3 ASC: 2 ASCQ: 0

Device Error 1054: A NT disc I/O operation failed
Error occurred writing data to disc.
Error Sense Data: SENSE KEY: FF ASC: 0 ASCQ: 79

Device Error 1007: Recovery attempt failed
Error occurred writing data to disc.
Error Sense Data: SENSE KEY: 3 ASC: C ASCQ: 8

Is this bad media? It wrote that first index-only disc to this media (after one bad attempt). The media is supposed to be Ritek 4x DVD-R, but it's unlabeled so it could be anything. I'm now trying another kind (Verbatim) and it seems to be proceeding without error so far, but it's painfully slow. It's been writing the first disc for 40 minutes now, and it's only up to 10%. That's an average data rate of 0.1x-202kB/s.

It's also brought the rest of my 1-gig 2gHz P4 to its knees. Is this the result of having too large a data set? The CPU usage is staying maxed at 100%, and trying to do anything else on the system, including writing this message, is like trying to do it over a 14.4 dialup connection, or worse.

Thanks,

Nill

[ntoulme]

p.s. It's not the media, just got the same error with the Verbatim disc:

Device Error 1007: Recovery attempt failed
Error occurred writing data to disc.
Error Sense Data: SENSE KEY: 3 ASC: C ASCQ: 8

Nill

[ntoulme]

Sigh... now I'm trying a smaller data set... estimated and final archive size of 8 DVD's. Is that OK? It's processing very quickly, then gets to "Finalizing Layout..." and stops. The "Begin Processing" button is live; if I press it, it very quickly quickly comes back to the same place and stops again. The Cancel and Burn buttons are grayed out.

Sorry to be such a nuisance, but I'm determined to get this to work.

Nill

[ntoulme]

p.p.s. Quit and restarted the app and now it's moving forward. Will report back on success or failure.

Nill

[ntoulme]

I backed off to an even smaller data set... about 5500 files, approx 1 1/2 DVD's worth. It processed well and quickly, and started burning. Seemed to be going well, data rate was up to about 1.5x, so off I went to the video store. Came back and the screen saver had kicked in and the system was dead... wouldn't even respond to ctrl-alt-delete. Had to power off to get it back.

I'm starting to get a little bit frustrated. Maybe I'll tackle this again next weekend.

Nill

[MichaelT]

Nill,

Sorry for the problems...

Here are some things that can get in the way..

--If CD Creator is loaded (and/or DirectCD), on some systems these programs "take over" the drive and cause problems.

--You may need to burn with the ASPI option turned on. See here...
http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=785

--To have more CPU power for other programs, uncheck the High Burn Priority option. This will free up some CPU power when other applications are running.

--Screen savers and other background programs are not good things to be on when burning.

--We have a new burn "control" available that offers some bug fixes and additional driver compatability. It is here. Just rename the original version and copy this new version to the AC folder. This is for V2.0 only.
http://pictureflow.com/ArchiveCreator/Dist/DVDRProXPre1004.zip

Regarding archive size. I would keep it to 3-5 DVDs, once again, just for logistics reasons. There are not technical reasons why it cannot be larger, but it seems to make more sense to keep the set managable from a burn perspective. We have people who do it all ways using AC, so this is a personal preference.

I hope that this is helpful, and thanks for your patience..

[ntoulme]

Thanks Michael. I got a successful 2-disc archive overnight, including verify, with nothing else running and screen saver turned off. It's not going to be terribly convenient though if I literally can't use the system while it's archiving though.

Nill

[MichaelT]

If you turn off the High Burn Priority option your machine should become responsive. Of course you should not be doing any heavy duty processing while burning, but it should give you back your machine. With the high priority option checked, the machine is pretty much locked out as you have noted.

Please let me know if unchecking this option makes things better. It should.

[ntoulme]

OK. I was going to try that anyway but was spooked by the "less robust" warnings in the docs.

Nill

[MichaelT]

For DVDs it is not really an issue. For CDs, even with Burn-Proof technology, the disc become less robust, but for DVDs the technology of the "gapless linking" of DVDs allows the DVD disk to be the same either way.

That being said, it is still best to not heavily load the PC when burning, regardless of what program you are using. But certainly surfing thr web or doing email and other light tasks are fine. I would not suggest converting RAW files at the same time as burning ;>).

[ntoulme]

Thanks Michael. I will try it.

Nill

[ntoulme]

That's the ticket... average 3.7x, 5076 kB/s while web surfing. I won't post this till the first disc verifies...

...it did. Do you recommend a full verify on all discs?

Thanks,

Nill

[MichaelT]

Yes...without a full verify, you have no way of knowing if the disk was burned properly. Also if the verification become erattic from a speed point of view, that would indicate read problems and a disk that might have been marginally written.

[rafiki]

Device Error 1053: A seek command was interrupted by another command
Error occurred writing data to disc.
Error Sense Data: SENSE KEY: 3 ASC: 2 ASCQ: 0


I'm getting this with both 3.0.1 and 3.0.4. on every attempt to archive. I have installed the ASPI stuff and burning is not set to high priority. The alternative burner file address bounces.

Is there a fix for this?

[PeterM]

Please try v3,05, just posted. Also, turn off the aspi layer and see if that helps...I assume this is an internal drive? Also, you might want to check if there are later firmware versions for your drive. Check the manufactures web site.

[rafiki]

Please try v3,05, just posted.
Installed 3.0.5 ok


Also, turn off the aspi layer and see if that helps....
Makes no difference. Same error either way


I assume this is an internal drive?
Yes. Sony DRU-500A


Also, you might want to check if there are later firmware versions for your drive. Check the manufactures web site.
Latest drivers installed.

Unfortunately the same error occurs.

[PeterM]

I have the same drive, it has been working fine for years. Do you have any other software (burning software ) installed on the machine?

[rafiki]

I have the same drive, it has been working fine for years. Do you have any other software (burning software ) installed on the machine?

Yes Peter, Nero 6 installed.